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According to WorldConnect: watts-smith
BIOGRAPHY:
Little is known about John Butler. He is shown on the 1840 census to have been born between 1790 and 1800 and to have had several children. In 1823John received 40 acres "by overture of R. W. J. Warrant #4833...in the12th District."
This forty acres was probably a military grant from NC. In 1838, he relinquished his interest in Elias Butler's estate to the younger Elias for $2111.10. Joshua Butler attested to this document also. John livedto be 94 years old.
SOURCES:
1. Herbert Russ; Kelly Suzanne Bembrey; Robert Allen; Nan Butler Hughes.
2. Marriage index for Cass County, Georgia from 1836 to 1850.
John, age 67, is enumerated with his brother, Joshua Butler in the 1850 Census for the 18th district of Carroll Co., Tennessee.
John, age 74, is enumerated with Jackson Jones, who married Elizabeth Bruton Butler in the 1860 Census for the 14th district of Carroll C.,Tennessee.
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found at http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~b2222b/genealogy/descent/Elias001.htm
3. John F.2 Butler (Elias1) (middle name Franklin?) was born circa 1782 and died in 1876. He married Phoebe Adeline Windsor (her surname is sometimes seen as Solomons (Solomon would be more likely); no proof of this mar. has been found. It is not certain that "Phoebe Adeline Windsor" or "Phoebe Adeline Windsor Solomons" actually existed. Although a Phoebe Butler left a will dated 1835 in Carroll Co., it was proven in Apr 1840 prior to the census that year; since the 1840 census for John Butler shows a female of the age to be John's wife and since John is not known to have remarried (nor is the death date of any wife even known), it is not likely that Phoebe the legator was the wife of John. The sole heir in this Phoebe Butler's will was a James P. Butler, so far an unknown person; neither John Butler nor any children were mentioned, another fact making it less likely that this Phoebe Butler was connected to John Butler (although it may also reflect Phoebe's possible dissatisfaction with her immediate family). Robert Allen reports that a month after this Phoebe died, "the court gave permission to have her body exhumed, the implication being that she had died under suspicious circumstances. Nothing further is said of the matter in the court records").
Some sources include children Joshua M., John (or John Calvin), and Thomas E., but there is no specific evidence for any of these 3, particularly for the supposed son John Calvin Butler. The details associated with the non-existent person John Calvin Butler actually apply loosely to a real person named Calvin J. Butler; however, no proof of the identity of the parents of Calvin J. Butler has ever come to light. Around 1980, researcher Allen Pendergraft incorrectly concluded that Calvin J. Butler was actually named John Calvin Butler; Mr. Pendergraft also moved Calvin's birthdate several years back in time to account for non-existent marriages erroneously attributed to Calvin. Mr. Pendergraft was fond of using rather strict naming rules, which he had devised, to make tentative guesses concerning the names of unknown parents and grandparents (using the given names of children); occasionally he also "corrected" the names of persons who, so he believed, went by their middle names rather than their first names. For example, he occasionally theorized that someone known in adulthood as "Henry John Smith" might have actually been named "John Henry Smith", but chose to go by his middle name Henry in order to avoid being confused with other persons named John Smith. Or, if the oldest son in a family were named Henry John Smith, Mr. Pendergraft would tentatively note on the working copies of his family group sheets that the mother's surname was John until he found other information to the contrary. Unfortunately, copies of his working family group sheets, which he freely made available to other researchers and which often contained such unproven suppositions, are in several libraries around the country and have been incorporated into the records of numerous genealogists and also into several published works, with the result that his suppositions are now considered "facts". In the specific case of Calvin J. Butler, there is no record that Calvin ever went by anything other than Calvin, Calvin J., or C. J. Butler; nowhere is he called John, and in fact it is more likely that his middle name is Jones and his namesake the famous NC general and land owner Calvin Jones (sons in many families located in NC, TN, and elsewhere were named after Calvin Jones and his brother Atlas Jones; instances of this in the American South are nearly as numerous as those where sons are named after beloved divines such as Lorenzo Dow, James O'Kelly, John Calvin, or Martin Luther). At best, Mr. Pendergraft's ad-hoc naming rules could perhaps be used to suggest avenues for further research, but their results cannot be accepted as proof of anything. Anyone using such data should independently verify all information before sharing their own research with others, especially through formal publication.
Evidence that Wm. L., Martha W., and Judith J. were ch. of John is not available. The 1830 census of Montgomery Co. NC (not Carroll Co. TN) lists a John Butler 11100001-0112101; assuming that son William L. is already living separately, this listing can account for Martha W. and Judith but leaves the other 3 males and 4 females unidentified. Note that the only 1830 census listing for a John Butler in Carroll Co. TN is 00001-100100001, which doesn't match the age of John, son of Elias. The listing for John Butler in the 1840 census of Carroll Co. is 00110001-00010001, agreeing with approx. birthyear of 1782 and indicates a wife still living and possibly 3 ch. b. after 1820, also currently unidentified, bringing the total of unidentified children associated with John Butler to 6; some of those enumerated may be grandchildren or other persons, however. Also, it is possible that John Butler was estranged from his children later in life, as he is living with other Butler families in 1850 and 1860, so those later censuses provide no additional information concerning his family. He apparently left no will.
More census discussion: John Butler may have appeared on the census of 1810 in Montgomery, NC (p. 575: J. Butler 30010-10010; although no John Butler is explicitly listed in this county in 1810, this J. Butler may be John Butler, as he is listed relatively close to (on the page before) E. Butler 11101-10201, supposed to be John's father Elias Butler). Also note a John Butler 1110001-0112101, no slaves, in 1830 census of Montgomery Co. NC, which agrees with the 1840 census in Carroll Co. TN in several respects and so could tentatively considered to be the same family. As noted above, a John Butler is enumerated in Carroll Co. TN in 1830 (John Butler 00001-100100001), but this data doesn't match the age of John, son of Elias, or his 'known' family and this John Butler is so far unidentified. Other evidence, such as the mar. location for his dau. Martha and birthplaces of Martha's children, suggests that John Butler did not leave the Montgomery Co. NC area until just prior to 1840, perhaps after his fathers's 1838 death or estate settlement in Carroll Co. TN; John's brother James may also have not left NC until about this time. Additional information such as land records should be analyzed to better determine when they moved and to minimize confusion between these families and others in Carroll Co. TN and Montgomery Co. NC. He appeared on the census of 1840 Carroll, TN (p. 74: John Butler 00110001-00010001). He was enumerated with Joshua Butler in 1850 Carroll, TN, where his age was recorded as 67. In 1860 he was age 74 (enum. with Jackson Jones, who married Elizabeth Bruton Butler).
Children of John F.2 Butler and Phoebe Adeline Windsor all b.NC, were as follows:
18. i. William L.3, m. Nancy (--?--); b. circa 1800.
19. ii. Martha W., m. James Sanders; b. 25 May 1814.
20. iii. Judith J., b. 23 Feb 1817; m. Claiborne J. Parish.
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found at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~b2222b/descent/Elias001.htm
3. ii. John F.; b. circa 1782, m. Phoebe Adeline Windsor.
iii. Elias F.; b. circa 1785 (or 1795); d. 1846 MO (Elias was alive May 1836 per his father's will, and apparently was involved in later transactions concerning settlement of his father's estate); m. Elizabeth Carroll. He lived in New Madrid, MO on 9 Oct 1838
(John Butler sells his interest in estate of Elias Butler to Elias Butler of New Madrid, MO, presumably his brother).4 Cari Hager ([email protected]) says Elias had 2 wives Elizabeth Brigham and Clarah Clark; Robert Allen's data also shows the same two wives, Clarrah Clark from the data of Herbert Russ and Elizabeth Brigham from the data of Allen Pendergraft. However, no proof has been forthcoming for any marriage of this Elias or, for that matter, any wife's first name. Allen Pendergraft's data as recorded by Kathy Whitmire says "Thomas Elias" (a hybrid of two dif. people, Elias and Thomas) mar. Clarrah Clark ca. 1804 and Eliz. Brigham ca. 1835, and then d. ca. 1835 in New Madrid Co. MO; however, as noted above, Elias was apparently still alive in New Madrid Co. MO in 1838; there is much to be desired concerning the records associated with this Elias Butler. Note that some researchers say Eliz. Carroll married Joshua Butler, son of Elias; more data concerning Eliz. Carroll is required.
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John Franklin Butler
Birth: 1795 **** - not 1782?
North Carolina, USA
Death: unknown ****??
Carroll County
Tennessee, USA
Family links:
Parents:
Thomas Elias Butler (1760 - 1838)
Sarah Elizabeth Starke Butler (1760 - 1850)
Siblings:
Mary Catherine Butler Queen*
Mary Elizabeth Butler McAuley (1791 - ____)*
Judith Butler Boyd (1791 - 1870)*
John Franklin Butler (1795 - ____)
Nathaniel Cornelius Butler (1796 - 1880)*
Joshua Daniel Butler (1802 - 1878)*
Sarah Elizabeth Butler Bobbitt (1804 - 1881)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Oak Grove Cemetery
Carroll County
Tennessee, USA
Created by: Nancy Jane Faulk White ...
Record added: Jun 09, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 112038049
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John Franklin Butler
Birth: 1795 **** - not 1782?
North Carolina, USA
Death: unknown ****
Carroll County
Tennessee, USA
Family links:
Parents:
Elias Butler (1760 - 1838)
Sarah Starke Butler (1760 - 1850)
Burial:
Oak Grove Cemetery
Carroll County
Tennessee, USA
Created by: Nancy Jane Faulk White ...
Record added: Jun 09, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 112038049
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John Franklin Butler (1783 - 1876)
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John Franklin Butler
Born 1783 in Montgomery County, North Carolina, USAmap
Son of Elias Butler and Sarah Elizabeth (Starke) Butler
Brother of James Moore Butler, Elias F Butler [half], Mary Catherine (Butler) Queen, Unknown Son Butler [half], Judith Butler, Mary Elizabeth Butler, Judah Butler [half], Reuben Butler, Elias F. Butler, Nealy Butler, Joshua Daniel Butler and Sarah Butler
Husband of Elizabeth Hawkins married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Father of William Solomon Butler, Elizabeth Butler and Unknown Son Butler
Died 1876 in Carroll County, Tennessee, USAmap
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Contents
[hide]1 Biography 1.1 Name
1.2 Birth
1.3 Residence
1.4 Note
2 Sources 2.1 Notes
Biography
Name
Name: John /Butler/[1][2][3]
Birth
Birth: Date: 1783 Place: Montgomery County, North Carolina, USA[4] Birth: Date: ABT 1782 Place: North Carolina, USA[5]
Found multiple copies of BIRT DATE. Using 1783
Residence
Residence: District 14. Living with Jackson Jones, probable son-in-law. Date: 1860 Place: Carroll County, Tennessee, USA[6] Residence: District 18. Living with Joshua Butler family--younger brother. Date: 1850 Place: Carroll County, Tennessee, USA[7] Residence: Date: 1840 Place: Carroll County, Tennessee, USA Note: #N3759[8]
Note
Note: #N3757
Sources
WikiTree profile Butler-3547 created through the import of gedcom for wikitree.ged on Dec 23, 2012 by Kelly Midura. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Kelly and others.
Source: S49 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1850 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005; Repository: #R1 NOTEUnited States of America, Bureau of the Census, Seventh Census of the United States, 1850, Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1850
Repository: R1 Name: www.ancestry.com Address: E-Mail Address: Phone Number:
Source: S50 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1860 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004; Repository: #R1 NOTEUnited States of America, Bureau of the Census, Eighth Census of the United States, 1860, Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1860
Source: S51 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1840 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004; Repository: #R1 NOTEUnited States of America, Bureau of the Census, Sixth Census of the United States, 1840, Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1840
Source: S75 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1830 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004; Repository: #R1 NOTEUnited States of America, Bureau of the Census, Fifth Census of the United States, 1830, Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1830
Source: S81 Author: Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Publication: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004; Repository: #R1
Notes
Note N3757Found 8 houses away from William S Butler in 1850. With Joshua Butler, presumed son. Joshua has a daughter named Adeline. 1840 has a male 15-19 in household that could be William. This same child does not appear in 1830. This may be simply an error, or William may be another relative that was taken in by the Butlers. William named his first son John. John's wife apparently died before 1850. She may have been Elizabeth Hawkins.
Note from this page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~b2222b/descent/Elias001.htm 3. John F.2 Butler (Elias1) (middle name Franklin?) was born circa 1782 and died in 1876. He married Phoebe Adeline Windsor (her surname is sometimes seen as Solomons (Solomon would be more likely); no proof of this mar. has been found. It is not certain that "Phoebe Adeline Windsor" or "Phoebe Adeline Windsor Solomons" actually existed. Although a Phoebe Butler left a will dated 1835 in Carroll Co., it was proven in Apr 1840 prior to the census that year; since the 1840 census for John Butler shows a female of the age to be John's wife and since John is not known to have remarried (nor is the death date of any wife even known), it is not likely that Phoebe the legator was the wife of John. The sole heir in this Phoebe Butler's will was a James P. Butler, so far an unknown person; neither John Butler nor any children were mentioned, another fact making it less likely that this Phoebe Butler was connected to John Butler (although it may also reflect Phoebe's possible dissatisfaction with her immediate family). Robert Allen reports that a month after this Phoebe died, "the court gave permission to have her body exhumed, the implication being that she had died under suspicious circumstances. Nothing further is said of the matter in the court records"). Some sources include children Joshua M., John (or John Calvin), and Thomas E., but there is no specific evidence for any of these 3, particularly for the supposed son John Calvin Butler. The details associated with the non-existent person John Calvin Butler actually apply loosely to a real person named Calvin J. Butler; however, no proof of the identity of the parents of Calvin J. Butler has ever come to light. Around 1980, researcher Allen Pendergraft incorrectly concluded that Calvin J. Butler was actually named John Calvin Butler; Mr. Pendergraft also moved Calvin's birthdate several years back in time to account for non-existent marriages erroneously attributed to Calvin. Mr. Pendergraft was fond of using rather strict naming rules, which he had devised, to make tentative guesses concerning the names of unknown parents and grandparents (using the given names of children); occasionally he also "corrected" the names of persons who, so he believed, went by their middle names rather than their first names. For example, he occasionally theorized that someone known in adulthood as "Henry John Smith" might have actually been named "John Henry Smith", but chose to go by his middle name Henry in order to avoid being confused with other persons named John Smith. Or, if the oldest son in a family were named Henry John Smith, Mr. Pendergraft would tentatively note on the working copies of his family group sheets that the mother's surname was John until he found other information to the contrary. Unfortunately, copies of his working family group sheets, which he freely made available to other researchers and which often contained such unproven suppositions, are in several libraries around the country and have been incorporated into the records of numerous genealogists and also into several published works, with the result that his suppositions are now considered "facts". In the specific case of Calvin J. Butler, there is no record that Calvin ever went by anything other than Calvin, Calvin J., or C. J. Butler; nowhere is he called John, and in fact it is more likely that his middle name is Jones and his namesake the famous NC general and land owner Calvin Jones (sons in many families located in NC, TN, and elsewhere were named after Calvin Jones and his brother Atlas Jones; instances of this in the American South are nearly as numerous as those where sons are named after beloved divines such as Lorenzo Dow, James O'Kelly, John Calvin, or Martin Luther). At best, Mr. Pendergraft's ad-hoc naming rules could perhaps be used to suggest avenues for further research, but their results cannot be accepted as proof of anything. Anyone using such data should independently verify all information before sharing their own research with others, especially through formal publication. Evidence that Wm. L., Martha W., and Judith J. were ch. of John is not available. The 1830 census of Montgomery Co. NC (not Carroll Co. TN) lists a John Butler 11100001-0112101; assuming that son William L. is already living separately, this listing can account for Martha W. and Judith but leaves the other 3 males and 4 females unidentified. Note that the only 1830 census listing for a John Butler in Carroll Co. TN is 00001-100100001, which doesn't match the age of John, son of Elias. The listing for John Butler in the 1840 census of Carroll Co. is 00110001-00010001, agreeing with approx. birthyear of 1782 and indicates a wife still living and possibly 3 ch. b. after 1820, also currently unidentified, bringing the total of unidentified children associated with John Butler to 6; some of those enumerated may be grandchildren or other persons, however. Also, it is possible that John Butler was estranged from his children later in life, as he is living with other Butler families in 1850 and 1860, so those later censuses provide no additional information concerning his family. He apparently left no will. More census discussion: John Butler may have appeared on the census of 1810 in Montgomery, NC (p. 575: J. Butler 30010-10010; although no John Butler is explicitly listed in this county in 1810, this J. Butler may be John Butler, as he is listed relatively close to (on the page before) E. Butler 11101-10201, supposed to be John's father Elias Butler). Also note a John Butler 1110001-0112101, no slaves, in 1830 census of Montgomery Co. NC, which agrees with the 1840 census in Carroll Co. TN in several respects and so could tentatively considered to be the same family. As noted above, a John Butler is enumerated in Carroll Co. TN in 1830 (John Butler 00001-100100001), but this data doesn't match the age of John, son of Elias, or his 'known' family and this John Butler is so far unidentified. Other evidence, such as the mar. location for his dau. Martha and birthplaces of Martha's children, suggests that John Butler did not leave the Montgomery Co. NC area until just prior to 1840, perhaps after his fathers's 1838 death or estate settlement in Carroll Co. TN; John's brother James may also have not left NC until about this time. Additional information such as land records should be analyzed to better determine when they moved and to minimize confusion between these families and others in Carroll Co. TN and Montgomery Co. NC. He appeared on the census of 1840 Carroll, TN (p. 74: John Butler 00110001-00010001). He was enumerated with Joshua Butler in 1850 Carroll, TN, where his age was recorded as 67. In 1860 he was age 74 (enum. with Jackson Jones, who married Elizabeth Bruton Butler).
Children of John F.2 Butler and Phoebe Adeline Windsor all b.NC, were as follows: 18.
i. William L.3, m. Nancy (--?--); b. circa 1800. 19.
ii. Martha W., m. James Sanders; b. 25 May 1814. 20.
iii. Judith J., b. 23 Feb 1817; m. Claiborne J. Parish.
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